Can you come up with a "new middle" category that Friedman did not address. What would make this job "untouchable?"
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One group of jobs that would be untouchable would be criminal justice jobs. Police officers, for example, could not outsourced because you can handcuff somebody over the internet.
I agree with Erin. I think one of the biggest groups of untouchables would be police officers because they have to physically go out in the community and make sure citizens are behaving well. It would be impossible to that over the internet.
An untouchable job that I don't think Freidman talked about is shipping, plain old shipping. While the flattening of the world has really changed the way that shipping is done, there is no way to replace the people that physically fly, drive, or ship the cargo. I think that this is an important untouchable job because there is so much cargo being shipped with this new world economy.
I think that a lot of the artistic jobs such as artists and actors are jobs that are untouchable for the reason that a computer just can't put the same emotion into something as a real human being.
I strongly agree with what the comments say. Being a police officer, an artist and being in the shipping industry saves you from getting your job outsourced. There's a catch though. I think that these jobs are under Friedman's category, the "great localizers." You can't outscource those jobs because they're needed in a specific place.
I got you guys.
I think Friedman covered everthing. Every job I think of that can't be outsourced fits in a category he already stated.
You try and think of jobs that cannot be outsourced. I think it will either fall into a category he already made or it will be able to be digitzed or outsourced. For example, firemen can't be outsourced or digitized, but they fall into the "great localizers." Scientists can't be digitized or outsourced, but they fall into the "math lovers."
one job i think will never be outsourced, is a surgeon. you all might disagree with me, but if i were about to have surgery, i would want a human not someone over the internet. It is physically impossible.
I agree with Sindatuk though, there are millions of jobs that cant be outsourced but even in the smallest way they fall in to one of the categories.;
I think that one job that is a untouchable would be firefighters because it would be awefully hard to extinguise the fire from over the internet. Until there is some program or computer that can make things come out of the computer this job will remain an untouchable
Like Sindatuk said, lots of jobs can't really be outsourced. Surgeons, definately, criminal justice, movermen(the guys who help carry your stuff when you move), entertainment people, and cooks(i'd like to see that job outsourced). These people need to be in the places where their job is so they can't be in another state or country to preform it.
I strongly agree with my good buddy Sindatuk! Almost all the jobs that have been listed can fit in a catagory. I am having trouble finding a job that doesn't but anyways... A job that i think can't really be outsourced is a kindergarten teacher. I realize that teaching can be done over the internet and stuff but the really young kids are going to have a harder time focusing like that. And lets face it, we did just as much playing as learning in kindergarten. Kindergarteners need a real human being to be there for them. I believe that, generally, most people would like to have a human touch in this particular ocupation.
Something that i believe could fall into an "untouchable" catagory would be criminal justice jobs, just as Erin W had said. I have thought about this one a lot, and i honestly have no idea how police officers and firefighters (just to name a couple) could ever be replaced.
I also believe that Judges and the Court System jobs would fall into one or many "untouchable" areas.
I agree with Tia. You can outsource teachers but when the kids are that young it might not be a great idea. But every other job I think of has a category.
One group of jobs that I believe are untouchable are cooks. You really cant outsource that, and have someone in a different country cook your meal... it has to be done then and there.
I think the group of jobs that are "untouchable" would have to be jobs that require physical presence. I agree with what people have been saying about teachers and criminal justice jobs. Criminal justice jobs need someone to be there considering they can't just arrest people over a computer or fight a fire. As for teachers they provide a structured hands on classroom experience that can't be done over a computer.
I agree with everyone who said criminal justice jobs can't be outsourced. For example how would police officers see every person in America breaking laws over the internet. I also agree with Sindatuk because this job can probably fit into another catagory.
I agree with almost everyone by saying civil servants like fire fighters and cops are untouchable. It's not like a guy sitting in India could click something on the computer and put out a forest fire in Minnesota and same with police...they have to be physiclay out on the streets confronting criminals.
Ok so I agree with Brittany on the whole surgeon thing because it does make sense. I mean if someone was sick and needed an operation I would think and hope that a certified surgeon would operate on them physically because there is no other way. Also say if someone broke a bone how would they know how to heal it correctly with the right equipment. I mean yes you could probably get the information from the internet, but that won't do it for them and how would they know they're actually getting true info. from a certified doctor.
I agree with bailey and erin on the police officers and firefighters because they cant do their job over the internet, they actually have to get involved and help the community.
I think one of the biggest groups of untouchable jobs would be one of a teachers. Teachers are really one of the most important groups of people to our world today because they teach us, the "future!" Without them, are education would mean absolutely nothing, and without them, no one would understand all that is going on and especially ways to fix all the problems that are occuring!
I think the best jobs to be untouched is a doctor, because you could never outsource doctors because they have to heel people. They have to physically be in the room to room to help people. This would be impossible to outsource because you need a very big medical background and someone couldnt do this without being in the room.
I agree with everyone who said that police officers and firefighters are "untouchable". I also think that another untouchable job would be a local politician because someone in India could not understand the community they are representing, they wouldn't understand how the community acts.
In my opinion, I think that one group of jobs that would be untouchable would have to be law enforcement. I don't even want to imagine what it would be like without these guys. But considering the internet, there is almost nothing they can do for a problem.
One group of untouchables that I think Friedman left out was teachers. While teachers may posibly fall under "The Great Explainers," teachers cannot be outsourced. You cannot tell someone in India to teach a group of students in Farmington. Technology can't take over a teaching job either, an actual human being is needed for teaching.
One of the jobs i think of that he didnt mention was a surgeon. I dont know about you, but if im having brain surgery i want a real person doing it not someone controlling a robot through a computer. Bad things can happen and the next thing you know im braindead!
I think police officers are untouchable because u cant arrest anyone on the internet, also u cant protect the city and civilians on the web. so that is an untouchable job.
I agree with Austin. I think that teachers are one of the things that can't be replaced with somebody in a different country. Learning requires a personal touch. If we didn't need our teachers to tell us how to do things, we would just learn from textbooks. But we don't do that, because teachers make things more understandable, and they show us how to do things in a way that relates to us personally.
I think a group that could be considered "untouchable" would be politician because we will always need leaders that are close by and will represent us. While a politician can be in a few of these groups, they can not be fully grounded to one group. So I think that Friedman missed that group of people.
I completely agree with Taylor. If you are an artist, you can put so much more emotions, feelings and uniqueness into something than a computer or machine ever could. When you see a print-out of an artists artwork it never feels the same than when you actually see and touch the real thing. Jobs like this are untouchable.
ok so everybody has covered about everything. I think i agree with Erin and Rachel and everybody else that brought out the point that police officers and cooks are "untouchable." But i also think like Hair stylists and those sorts of jobs are untouchable because you can't outsource them.
I think that a group of jobs that can't be outsourced would be anything to do with medicne. You can get help with it on the internet but an actual doctor needs to be near you. It just seems like any job relating to medicine is really safe.
A job that Friedman didn't address and didn't seem to fit into any category are the men and women serving our country, the ones in the military and armed forces. They truly want to serve the U.S. and in order for that, they have to have a great amount of loyalty as well as bravery. (It can't be outsorced because, are Indian or Chinese citizens loyal enough to the U.S. to fight for us? I doubt it.) Along with the military there are the politicians, like Evan K. and Scott Y. mentioned, and they could make another "middle" category... maybe named "For the People". I'm not saying they don't fit in a group he made but these "untouchable" jobs aren't stuck to one, and therefore, they could make this new category.
I agree with Erin because it wouldn't be possible for them to be there on the crime scene. Like the example Erin gave it'll be stupid to even try that. The criminal justice jobs are put in place for a certain area. Also like Bailey said, you have to physically go out to do your job.
I agree with Megan that many medical jobs cannot be outsourced, however you can still get a diagnosis done by a foreign doctor on the other side of the world if he has the patients symptoms available to him. I think if any type of doctor becomes it would be surgeons as someone across the world cannot perform surgery on you.
i agree with everyone's blogs, but especially kelli's and tia's, because yes you would have to physically be there. To arrest someone, or act, you would have to be there. It would be impossible to do it over technology or the internet.
I agree witheverone else saying law enforcement. You have to phsically arrest someone, you cant do it over the internet. Yu can't outsource it to someone in India because even if they are watching the speeding car on their computer they can't do anything to stop it.
I agree with Scotts comment about how politicians are an untouchable. They are the leadership of their country. They are the ones that know what their counrty or state needs and can only know that from a personal experience.
I think the safest jobs would be craftmanship jobs because those have to be done by hand, i suppose that might fit in the localizers but it's not just that they have to be on location to get the job done correctly but they also must add a human touch to it... something computers have not yet accomplished. This new catagory would include artists, actors, and handymen. Although i suppose these jobs could be done wherever art is often hard to move, actors shoot on location alot, and handymen simply can't work over the internet. If that makes sense?
I believe an untouchable job would be doctors because even though machines are doing some of the more difficult parts of the job, it would be really weird for a machine to do a routine check up on someone. Everyone is acustom to a real live person doing this kind of thing.
I think a job that would be untouchable would be a doctor or surgeon, people in the medical. I'm pretty sure I would prefer a human doing surgery on me rather than anything else.
a group of jobs that couldn't be replaced are the armed forces because machines cant make the same decisions that humans can make and you can't outsource soldiers.
i think the three most important untouchable jobs would be jobs in education, criminal justice and the medical field. these professions couldn't be outsourced because they all need human interaction. for instance, teaching needs interaction because its the hands on learning that they teach the students which help them succeed and understand what they are learning.
one job that is untouchable is farming, you need alot of care and patience to grow food. i am pretty sure someone across the world on the internet cant do that. also about the criminal justice jobs, robocop is a start it could happen
I think jobs that are untouchable are jobs that require a physical presence.I agree with what people have been saying about teachers and criminal justice jobs. Teachers are needed to have a more hands on learning experience and to help keep kids inline. Criminal justice jobs need someone to be there considering they can't just arrest people over a computer.
It seems unlikely that a job requiring any sort of physical labor involving the actual land we live could be outsourced. It would be pretty hard for a man in China to pave a road in Minnesota over the internet. There is a degree to which physical labor can be done by machines, but it's going to be awhile before robots can replace elbow grease completely.
I really cant think of an untouchable that he didnt think of because all of the ones that i could possibly think of fall into the broad categories he talked of. Most of the ones that i would think of fall into the great localizers category.
Like what a lot of the comments said Police officers could not be outsourced because you cant be in Minnesota and arrest someone whos in California through a computer.
A job that I can think of as an untouchable would be my mother's job. My mom works for Dakota county as a enforcement officer which is untouchable because it is state funded. You cannot outsource her job because it requires her to have contact with her clients.
A simple job that is untouchable is being in the army. It's a simple job because anyone can apply and anyone can join. Also, there is pretty much an unlimited list of job openings for it.
i think that one untouchable job would be police officers and fire fighters. a robot can arrest someone and fight a fire. (not yet atleast) but i think that teachers and surgeons can be "touched" because already they have robots that can be controlled by people across the world. and as for teachers they are already being outsourced. online school is one example and i could learn from a teacher in Norway over a web cam.
I think there are many jobs that are untouchable. I agree with police officers and firemen they have to actually go out and get people doing crimes and to fight a fire, it would be a little hard fighting a fire with just the computer. Being a doctor or vet is also another one because you have to do hand on things to help people and animals survive.
A group of jobs would be home improvement. you wouldn't send your house over seas and back again, that would be just plain silly. the designers could be outsourced but the blue collar workers would keep thier jobs no matter what.
I think one group of "untouchable jobs" would be jobs that require physical contact. Like hairdresser of chiropractors. If these jobs were shipped over seas, the would be impossible to keep in the work force. I also agree with Erin that criminal justice jobs would be difficult.
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One group of jobs that would be untouchable would be criminal justice jobs. Police officers, for example, could not outsourced because you can handcuff somebody over the internet.
I agree with Erin. I think one of the biggest groups of untouchables would be police officers because they have to physically go out in the community and make sure citizens are behaving well. It would be impossible to that over the internet.
An untouchable job that I don't think Freidman talked about is shipping, plain old shipping. While the flattening of the world has really changed the way that shipping is done, there is no way to replace the people that physically fly, drive, or ship the cargo. I think that this is an important untouchable job because there is so much cargo being shipped with this new world economy.
I think that a lot of the artistic jobs such as artists and actors are jobs that are untouchable for the reason that a computer just can't put the same emotion into something as a real human being.
I strongly agree with what the comments say. Being a police officer, an artist and being in the shipping industry saves you from getting your job outsourced. There's a catch though. I think that these jobs are under Friedman's category, the "great localizers." You can't outscource those jobs because they're needed in a specific place.
I got you guys.
I think Friedman covered everthing. Every job I think of that can't be outsourced fits in a category he already stated.
You try and think of jobs that cannot be outsourced. I think it will either fall into a category he already made or it will be able to be digitzed or outsourced. For example, firemen can't be outsourced or digitized, but they fall into the "great localizers." Scientists can't be digitized or outsourced, but they fall into the "math lovers."
I hope you guys get my point.
one job i think will never be outsourced, is a surgeon. you all might disagree with me, but if i were about to have surgery, i would want a human not someone over the internet. It is physically impossible.
I agree with Sindatuk though, there are millions of jobs that cant be outsourced but even in the smallest way they fall in to one of the categories.;
I think that one job that is a untouchable would be firefighters because it would be awefully hard to extinguise the fire from over the internet. Until there is some program or computer that can make things come out of the computer this job will remain an untouchable
Like Sindatuk said, lots of jobs can't really be outsourced. Surgeons, definately, criminal justice, movermen(the guys who help carry your stuff when you move), entertainment people, and cooks(i'd like to see that job outsourced).
These people need to be in the places where their job is so they can't be in another state or country to preform it.
I strongly agree with my good buddy Sindatuk! Almost all the jobs that have been listed can fit in a catagory. I am having trouble finding a job that doesn't but anyways... A job that i think can't really be outsourced is a kindergarten teacher. I realize that teaching can be done over the internet and stuff but the really young kids are going to have a harder time focusing like that. And lets face it, we did just as much playing as learning in kindergarten. Kindergarteners need a real human being to be there for them. I believe that, generally, most people would like to have a human touch in this particular ocupation.
Something that i believe could fall into an "untouchable" catagory would be criminal justice jobs, just as Erin W had said. I have thought about this one a lot, and i honestly have no idea how police officers and firefighters (just to name a couple) could ever be replaced.
I also believe that Judges and the Court System jobs would fall into one or many "untouchable" areas.
I agree with Tia. You can outsource teachers but when the kids are that young it might not be a great idea. But every other job I think of has a category.
One group of jobs that I believe are untouchable are cooks. You really cant outsource that, and have someone in a different country cook your meal... it has to be done then and there.
I think the group of jobs that are "untouchable" would have to be jobs that require physical presence. I agree with what people have been saying about teachers and criminal justice jobs. Criminal justice jobs need someone to be there considering they can't just arrest people over a computer or fight a fire. As for teachers they provide a structured hands on classroom experience that can't be done over a computer.
I agree with everyone who said criminal justice jobs can't be outsourced. For example how would police officers see every person in America breaking laws over the internet. I also agree with Sindatuk because this job can probably fit into another catagory.
I agree with almost everyone by saying civil servants like fire fighters and cops are untouchable. It's not like a guy sitting in India could click something on the computer and put out a forest fire in Minnesota and same with police...they have to be physiclay out on the streets confronting criminals.
Ok so I agree with Brittany on the whole surgeon thing because it does make sense. I mean if someone was sick and needed an operation I would think and hope that a certified surgeon would operate on them physically because there is no other way. Also say if someone broke a bone how would they know how to heal it correctly with the right equipment. I mean yes you could probably get the information from the internet, but that won't do it for them and how would they know they're actually getting true info. from a certified doctor.
I agree with bailey and erin on the police officers and firefighters because they cant do their job over the internet, they actually have to get involved and help the community.
I think one of the biggest groups of untouchable jobs would be one of a teachers. Teachers are really one of the most important groups of people to our world today because they teach us, the "future!" Without them, are education would mean absolutely nothing, and without them, no one would understand all that is going on and especially ways to fix all the problems that are occuring!
I think the best jobs to be untouched is a doctor, because you could never outsource doctors because they have to heel people. They have to physically be in the room to room to help people. This would be impossible to outsource because you need a very big medical background and someone couldnt do this without being in the room.
I agree with everyone who said that police officers and firefighters are "untouchable". I also think that another untouchable job would be a local politician because someone in India could not understand the community they are representing, they wouldn't understand how the community acts.
In my opinion, I think that one group of jobs that would be untouchable would have to be law enforcement. I don't even want to imagine what it would be like without these guys. But considering the internet, there is almost nothing they can do for a problem.
One group of untouchables that I think Friedman left out was teachers. While teachers may posibly fall under "The Great Explainers," teachers cannot be outsourced. You cannot tell someone in India to teach a group of students in Farmington. Technology can't take over a teaching job either, an actual human being is needed for teaching.
One of the jobs i think of that he didnt mention was a surgeon. I dont know about you, but if im having brain surgery i want a real person doing it not someone controlling a robot through a computer. Bad things can happen and the next thing you know im braindead!
I think police officers are untouchable because u cant arrest anyone on the internet, also u cant protect the city and civilians on the web. so that is an untouchable job.
I agree with Austin. I think that teachers are one of the things that can't be replaced with somebody in a different country. Learning requires a personal touch. If we didn't need our teachers to tell us how to do things, we would just learn from textbooks. But we don't do that, because teachers make things more understandable, and they show us how to do things in a way that relates to us personally.
I think a group that could be considered "untouchable" would be politician because we will always need leaders that are close by and will represent us. While a politician can be in a few of these groups, they can not be fully grounded to one group. So I think that Friedman missed that group of people.
I completely agree with Taylor. If you are an artist, you can put so much more emotions, feelings and uniqueness into something than a computer or machine ever could. When you see a print-out of an artists artwork it never feels the same than when you actually see and touch the real thing. Jobs like this are untouchable.
ok so everybody has covered about everything. I think i agree with Erin and Rachel and everybody else that brought out the point that police officers and cooks are "untouchable." But i also think like Hair stylists and those sorts of jobs are untouchable because you can't outsource them.
I think that a group of jobs that can't be outsourced would be anything to do with medicne. You can get help with it on the internet but an actual doctor needs to be near you. It just seems like any job relating to medicine is really safe.
A job that Friedman didn't address and didn't seem to fit into any category are the men and women serving our country, the ones in the military and armed forces. They truly want to serve the U.S. and in order for that, they have to have a great amount of loyalty as well as bravery. (It can't be outsorced because, are Indian or Chinese citizens loyal enough to the U.S. to fight for us? I doubt it.) Along with the military there are the politicians, like Evan K. and Scott Y. mentioned, and they could make another "middle" category... maybe named "For the People". I'm not saying they don't fit in a group he made but these "untouchable" jobs aren't stuck to one, and therefore, they could make this new category.
I agree with Erin because it wouldn't be possible for them to be there on the crime scene. Like the example Erin gave it'll be stupid to even try that. The criminal justice jobs are put in place for a certain area. Also like Bailey said, you have to physically go out to do your job.
I agree with Megan that many medical jobs cannot be outsourced, however you can still get a diagnosis done by a foreign doctor on the other side of the world if he has the patients symptoms available to him. I think if any type of doctor becomes it would be surgeons as someone across the world cannot perform surgery on you.
i agree with everyone's blogs, but especially kelli's and tia's, because yes you would have to physically be there. To arrest someone, or act, you would have to be there. It would be impossible to do it over technology or the internet.
I agree witheverone else saying law enforcement. You have to phsically arrest someone, you cant do it over the internet. Yu can't outsource it to someone in India because even if they are watching the speeding car on their computer they can't do anything to stop it.
I agree with Scotts comment about how politicians are an untouchable. They are the leadership of their country. They are the ones that know what their counrty or state needs and can only know that from a personal experience.
I think the safest jobs would be craftmanship jobs because those have to be done by hand, i suppose that might fit in the localizers but it's not just that they have to be on location to get the job done correctly but they also must add a human touch to it... something computers have not yet accomplished. This new catagory would include artists, actors, and handymen. Although i suppose these jobs could be done wherever art is often hard to move, actors shoot on location alot, and handymen simply can't work over the internet. If that makes sense?
I believe an untouchable job would be doctors because even though machines are doing some of the more difficult parts of the job, it would be really weird for a machine to do a routine check up on someone. Everyone is acustom to a real live person doing this kind of thing.
I think a job that would be untouchable would be a doctor or surgeon, people in the medical. I'm pretty sure I would prefer a human doing surgery on me rather than anything else.
a group of jobs that couldn't be replaced are the armed forces because machines cant make the same decisions that humans can make and you can't outsource soldiers.
i think the three most important untouchable jobs would be jobs in education, criminal justice and the medical field. these professions couldn't be outsourced because they all need human interaction. for instance, teaching needs interaction because its the hands on learning that they teach the students which help them succeed and understand what they are learning.
one job that is untouchable is farming, you need alot of care and patience to grow food. i am pretty sure someone across the world on the internet cant do that. also about the criminal justice jobs, robocop is a start it could happen
I think jobs that are untouchable are jobs that require a physical presence.I agree with what people have been saying about teachers and criminal justice jobs. Teachers are needed to have a more hands on learning experience and to help keep kids inline. Criminal justice jobs need someone to be there considering they can't just arrest people over a computer.
It seems unlikely that a job requiring any sort of physical labor involving the actual land we live could be outsourced. It would be pretty hard for a man in China to pave a road in Minnesota over the internet. There is a degree to which physical labor can be done by machines, but it's going to be awhile before robots can replace elbow grease completely.
I really cant think of an untouchable that he didnt think of because all of the ones that i could possibly think of fall into the broad categories he talked of. Most of the ones that i would think of fall into the great localizers category.
Like what a lot of the comments said Police officers could not be outsourced because you cant be in Minnesota and arrest someone whos in California through a computer.
A job that I can think of as an untouchable would be my mother's job. My mom works for Dakota county as a enforcement officer which is untouchable because it is state funded. You cannot outsource her job because it requires her to have contact with her clients.
one group of people who are untouchables are sergions. you need sergions to actually cut open people and sew them up.
i think any job in government will be an "untouchable" one, because with the demcrats in power they will want to expand government.
A simple job that is untouchable is being in the army. It's a simple job because anyone can apply and anyone can join. Also, there is pretty much an unlimited list of job openings for it.
i think that one untouchable job would be police officers and fire fighters. a robot can arrest someone and fight a fire. (not yet atleast) but i think that teachers and surgeons can be "touched" because already they have robots that can be controlled by people across the world. and as for teachers they are already being outsourced. online school is one example and i could learn from a teacher in Norway over a web cam.
I think there are many jobs that are untouchable. I agree with police officers and firemen they have to actually go out and get people doing crimes and to fight a fire, it would be a little hard fighting a fire with just the computer. Being a doctor or vet is also another one because you have to do hand on things to help people and animals survive.
A group of jobs would be home improvement. you wouldn't send your house over seas and back again, that would be just plain silly. the designers could be outsourced but the blue collar workers would keep thier jobs no matter what.
I think one group of "untouchable jobs" would be jobs that require physical contact. Like hairdresser of chiropractors. If these jobs were shipped over seas, the would be impossible to keep in the work force. I also agree with Erin that criminal justice jobs would be difficult.
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